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Showing posts with label meal. Show all posts
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Tuesday, August 5, 2008

Hog Comments - A round of late selling for hogs and grains.



CORN
Corn just had to prove it to me that there were buy signals out there and they were good signals for a short period of time. The market closed considerably lower overnight and it seemed as if there was doom and gloom in Chicago this morning. I had an order in to buy Dec '08 corn at $5.56 on a stop because of the signal from yesterday and also the soybean market had found some life. We didn't get to that price level in a time in which I was comfortable so I pulled my order and just stood aside. Granted, if I would have kept my order in I would have been long at $5.56 and I had an exit order at $5.62 I would have made few cents today but needless to say I didn't do anything but stand on the sidelines. I am still cautious about the support at this level, I still feel $5.13-.15 is an area that we could visit sometime in the near future. These markets can sure tear you up and spit you out if you are not willing to move with them. I felt pretty stupid when the market hit what would have been my buy stop order and never looked back rallying up almost .12 cents but by the end of the day I wasn't feeling that awful at all. I feel as if we could trade a little better tomorrow because the chart gave me a warning sign of potential upside reversal. Let me make it clear it's just a warning signal and nothing else. It feels like we're too close to $5.13 to not test that level of support. Another private analyst was out today with a corn yield of 155+ which is more than the estimate yesterday and definitely more than the 148.4 the government is using. I am not extremely bearish tonight and tomorrow, I feel like we could have a small retracement back up toward $5.55-.58 in the Dec '08 contract. The low of $5.36 1/4 is the 62% retracement level ($5.37 3/4 actually) to the $5.13 1/4 low in March '08 so we could see some support here for now. Dec '08 corn traded 156,776 contracts today which is on the larger side of daily volume so there is still some liquidation going on so rallies should be tough to maintain for now. I am looking for an option strategy that will allow me to lower my ceiling in corn. My current strategy returned another .01 7/8 cents today. The lower this goes the cheaper my strategy becomes, the only problem is I can't get stuck on waiting for it to be paid for and not make another move to lower the cost of corn. Looking for possibly two sided trade tomorrow but I think we will spend most of the day better.

MEAL
Meal held pretty strong early on today but sold off with corn and soybeans going into the close. I am looking for support in the $327-329 area in Sep '08 meal but I am weary of the odds of it getting there. I will be looking for an option strategy that will give me good coverage on meal but not cost an arm and a leg to put on. Meal has some of the same warning signs that I spoke of in corn in relationship to a potential upside reversal. I expect a two sided to better trade tomorrow for meal. I am starting to get pretty itchy as far as good coverage goes but I am not sold on a solid reversal therefore I will look to use an option strategy to provide more downside potential but allowing for good protection to the upside.

HOGS
Hogs reacted very well to the fundamental information that is out there. We were up for a good portion of the day until around 12:50-55 when the Oct '08 hogs went from up .80 to down .45 cents. I said yesterday that I am staying hedged, I have warning signs all over the place with these hogs and I don't feel right being unhedged. If it was earlier in the year it may be a different story but for right now I am sticking to hedges. Cash was better this afternoon once again as well as cutout which was up .89 cents. You can't seem to stop this cutout for anything. I do have a sell signal in Oct '08 hogs tomorrow at $74.15 stop which would be about .25 below today's low. Afternoon fundamentals would suggest a higher hog market tomorrow and I will agree but not with any major rallies foreseen, (that type of statement is usually good for having the market ram it down your throat!) I would expect two sided trade in hogs tomorrow.

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
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Total Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date Loads Carcass Loin Butt Pic Rib Ham Belly
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08/05 95.3 89.66 105.84 95.75 71.00 97.36 88.23 99.63
Change : ** 0.65 0.93 2.33 0.27 2.20 0.10 0.08**

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

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: National : Iowa : Western : Eastern
: : Minnesota : Cornbelt : Cornbelt
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Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
no premiums are added.
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BARROWS & GILTS : .31 hgr : .67 hgr : .50 hgr : .30 hgr
Negotiated : : : :
CARCASS BASIS : 75.00-86.00 : 75.00-86.00 : 75.00-86.00 : 75.19-83.11
185 lb Base Hog : wtd avg : wtd avg : wtd avg : wtd avg
Plant Delivered : 82.07 : 83.26 : 83.12 : 80.07
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Head Count : 26,514 : 13,910 : 17,298 : 8,794

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Friday, August 1, 2008

Hog Comments - Corn blows through support, hog cutout on fire.


CORN
Corn was under pressure from the start this morning. We moved lower and held support at the number I talked about yesterday, $5.94 1/2. $5.94 3/4 was the actual price that the market bounced off of early. Once the soybeans started to weaken it was over. The flood gates were open. There was really nothing impressive about this market this week. The close below $6.00 and weather being on non-threatening side gives me little to be excited about. I would expect a test of the most recent low of $5.62 3/4 at some point next week. If Dec corn opens below today's low of $5.81 1/2 I would be cautious if selling it because that would be a friendly opening for a possible reversal. It's not a prediction just a statement. I still have my options position on that will keep me open to the downside but give me upside in this market if it rallies. I will be adjusting my position if we get another $.40 lower or so. If the market closes next week below $5.62 3/4 the next target would be around $5.13 Dec '08.

MEAL
Meal started off a little better today because soybeans were stronger than the overnight suggested and most of that was mainly a direct result of Crude Oil being up over $4.00 around the time of the market open. Corn struggled then beans followed and meal wasn't far behind. Meal was the strongest commodity (outside of wheat) from a price perspective today but couldn't hold any support going into the last 20 minutes of trade. It wasn't a great day for me in meal today, I had a stop order triggered near the open and then was stopped out of that position a little while later. I am still neutral on meal at this time but I am waiting to pounce when the market shows signs of turning. As of today's close it looks like we could be lower again on Monday and there is a gap down at $345.70 (CORRECTION $357.90 NOT $345.70 GAP AREA THIS CORRECTION IS AS OF 08-04-08)that we could possibly fill next week if this thing gets ugly.

HOGS
Hogs had an interesting day today, first they were up strong in the early trade but then all of a sudden it went from up $1.00+ to down $1.00+??? I am not sure what took place there but I entered back into my hedges a little below where we got out when the market didn't rally like I thought it should have. The market closed up $.27 for the day. Cutout was higher again today up $.67 and cash was higher again ranging from $.59 to $1.86. The cutout is at the highest level that it has ever been and continues to move higher. One would think with a close above $74.00 we could try for the old highs of $77.425 but man do I have other things telling me to be careful. I am in one of those modes where I am not sure what to think here. I am staying hedged for now because of what I talk about in the next paragraph as well as the tendencies I spoke of on my July 30th, 2008 posting.


CHART OF OCT 2007 HOGS click chart for a larger picture.
The chart to the left is of the Oct 2007 hog futures contract. The high for the move was on Aug 3rd, 2007 which happened to be a Friday. The market dropped $20.15 cwt from high to low in the matter of two months. I am not making a prediction because the situation between last year and this year are different but I just want to be reminded of what has happened in the past and how devastating it could be with $5.00 + corn this year!



USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
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Total Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date Loads Carcass Loin Butt Pic Rib Ham Belly
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08/01 44.0 88.90 104.68 93.67 70.52 94.85 88.02 99.49
Change : 0.67 3.29 1.31 -0.01 -1.45 -1.29 unc

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

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: National : Iowa : Western : Eastern
: : Minnesota : Cornbelt : Cornbelt
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Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
no premiums are added.
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BARROWS & GILTS : 1.02 hgr : 1.86 hgr : 1.22 hgr : .59 hgr
Negotiated : : : :
CARCASS BASIS : 74.00-83.99 : 74.72-83.99 : 74.00-83.99 : 74.50-83.00
185 lb Base Hog : wtd avg : wtd avg : wtd avg : wtd avg
Plant Delivered : 80.31 : 81.34 : 80.95 : 79.23
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Head Count : 25,178 : 11,385 : 15,792 : 9,386

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Wednesday, July 30, 2008

Hog Comments - Small recovery for hogs.


NOTICE: Over the next few weeks I will be working on a way to get better quote information on this blog. The one that we have now is end of day data only so it doesn't update during the day and is quite useless in my opinion. Hopefully I can get something figured out to make the quotes more useful.

CORN
I said yesterday that I thought the market would move higher early and then drift as the day went on. Well, that action happened overnight and this morning we moved lower and eventually traded higher. If you will notice in the chart to the left, we have failed to close the market above the $6.22 level that I spoke of as resistance. Today's candle (today's trade action) left us with a warning signal. I see two things, 1.) we gaped higher than yesterday's high last night, 2.) we had a relatively wide trade range today and closed slightly above last nights open. To me these are both warning signs that the market may be looking for a breather PLUS we are at the 25% retracement level at $6.22. Looking at the 6-10 & 8-14 day forecast it isn't very threatening, above average temps but also normal/above normal rainfall and rain makes grain when it comes to the markets. I am becoming less and less friendly to this corn market. A good rule of thumb would be look for the first day the we close below a previous day's low and then we could turn the market lower. I am not bullish right here BUT the market has reversed itself and has been moving slightly higher therefore I will wait for something to jump out at me to say it is over and I don't see it yet. I don't believe the market is super bullish here, I have three warning signals today that say use caution on the long side of the market. Here is the kicker, they are warning signals not sell signals. Closing this Friday above $6.29 (last weeks high) could give the market enough incentive to try for the $6.53 area. I am in one of those areas right now where I don't have a strong conviction that the market is going to reverse lower but I have my finger on the trigger because I don't feel the long-term bull just yet. I am not saying it wont get here someday, I just don't know if now is the time. I feel we are just recovering from the downside going into the Aug crop report. Gun to my head, I don't see us closing above $6.29 this week. The overnight market is currently unchanged as I write this.

MEAL
Meal had a better day today than I thought it would. It struggled early with soybeans but by the end of the day we were trading higher. $377.40 is the 50% retracement level back to last weeks highs in meal and we failed to close above this price today. If we fail to close above $377.40 on Friday then I feel that we could make a move back towards our lows and try to challenge them. I am just not overly opptomistic in meal (soybeans really) right now. It doesn't mean that I don't think protection is needed to ward off higher prices but I don't feel one needs to be aggressively long right now. Stay covered, I think we could be lower tomorrow and I think we will have a better place to get aggressively long below current market levels.

HOGS
Hogs had a pretty nice rally today but failed to hold it going into the close. We need to close the week above $72.95 for mee to think we could make a run back up to $74.52 although I don't see us getting there at this point. I feel like we could see the hog market slightly lower tomorrow even with the good cutout numbers that we have today. Cash was a bit weaker but nothing to bad and cutout held its own up $.77. Oct hogs typically rally into the end of July and trade lower for the first half of August. The largest rally that we have had from Aug 1st to Aug 15th has been $3.28 cwt in 2006, the largest decline was $5.99 in 2007. This information is based on the closing price on Aug 1st and the closing price on Aug 15th and the records that I am using are going back to 1993. Keep in mind that in years where the Oct futures are above $65.00 on Aug 1st, 1997 @ $75.57, 2004 @ $69.22 and 2007 @ $74.57 the market dropped each year by $4.55, $.90 and $5.99 respectively. This is a good indication that Oct hog futures are usually very well priced at $70.00+.

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
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Total Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date Loads Carcass Loin Butt Pic Rib Ham Belly
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07/30 79.1 86.64 101.73 91.05 69.54 95.60 86.90 94.50
Change : 0.77 1.61 0.25 1.37 -0.55 0.72 unc

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

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: National : Iowa : Western : Eastern
: : Minnesota : Cornbelt : Cornbelt
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Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS : .55 lwr : .39 lwr : .61 lwr : .46 lwr
Negotiated : : : :
CARCASS BASIS : 71.75-81.84 : 73.00-81.84 : 73.00-81.84 : 71.75-81.47
185 lb Base Hog : wtd avg : wtd avg : wtd avg : wtd avg
Plant Delivered : 78.93 : 79.57 : 79.46 : 77.53
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Head Count : 25,184 : 14,875 : 18,316 : 6,868

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Monday, July 28, 2008

Hog Comments - Another fun filled day of nothing.


CORN
Corn gave us a little run up in the overnight session blowing through Friday's high of $6.04 1/2 but failed to close above that level this afternoon. It still looks as though corn wants to make a bounce but we seem to be met with good selling anytime we try to make a strong move higher. The volume today (electronic) was around 94,000 contracts in the Dec '08 futures so the .04 3/4 higher close had some players behind it. I am sticking to my comments from Friday that we should have seen a strong move higher basis the buy signal I had last week but since we have failed to do so I would expect most of our rally attempts to be met with good selling. The levels of resistance that could see good selling are $6.22, $6.53 and $6.81 all in the Dec '08 contract. I don't expect the market to do anything crazy going into our August crop production report in a couple of weeks so with that said, I believe we are going to trade a range here for awhile and then look for direction when we get more news in the market. There has been some talk of a "ridge" over the cornbelt in the coming weeks but the predictions are unfounded according to some industry experts. As far as I can tell everything seems to look great in our backyard from a production perspective. I am still keeping my ceiling in place for feed needs but I am not looking for any major rallies to take out our June highs just yet. The crop ratings this afternoon have the crop 66% Good/Excellent vs. 58% last year and 62% on the 5 year average. Crop ratings could be viewed as slightly negative although I would be surprised if the trade wasn't expecting a better number than last week.

MEAL
Soybean meal started out stronger with the soybeans and corn this morning but couldn't hold the rally, it broke along with soybeans. I exited my meal hedges for now when the market was up $5.00 in the Sep contract but I am willing to get right back in if I am wrong. The market feels heavy to me after being as high as $12.90 higher in the overnight trade and it doesn't have enough believers to hold a strong rally. I feel like meal is in the same boat as corn, looking for a sideways pattern here for now and then look for reasons to breakout one way or the other. For now I am going to try and buy meal lower on any dips.

HOGS
Hogs tried to rally above what seems to be the forever talked about $74.00 level in the Oct '08 contract but failed to hold any rallies much past the first hour of trade. The Oct contract was down as much as .80 cents but rallied into the close to finish the day down around .47 cents. Extended trade is down around .32 (this is a continuation of today's pit trade) after the cash and cutout reports have been released at 3:00 p.m. central. We closed today below Fridays low and would expect some follow through to the downside tomorrow based on the lax fundamental news we got this afternoon. Cash seemed weak this morning but then firmed some as the day went on. There are no grave danger signs in cash just yet but we may be getting into borrowed time if we keep this up much longer. As a disclaimer, my strong suit is not in the cash hog commentary/predictions as much as it is the technical analysis of the charts and futures market bias.

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
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Total Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date Loads Carcass Loin Butt Pic Rib Ham Belly
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07/28 40.3 85.30 100.53 90.69 68.21 97.02 86.35 89.58
Change : 0.05 0.35 0.20 0.04 0.97 -1.71 1.98

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

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: National : Iowa : Western : Eastern
: : Minnesota : Cornbelt : Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS : .37 hgr : .33 hgr : .42 hgr : .22 lwr
Negotiated : : : :
CARCASS BASIS : 72.25-82.50 : 75.00-82.50 : 73.00-82.50 : 72.25-81.76
185 lb Base Hog : wtd avg : wtd avg : wtd avg : wtd avg
Plant Delivered : 79.95 : 80.59 : 80.77 : 78.26

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and here is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.